Thursday, April 3, 2008

Bad Poker

I'm in poker frustration mode. I was set and ready to go for the Bellagio first event and I was gone right before the first break. Starting with 4k chips, I was down to 2800 after really nothing eventful and just making a few raises with marginal hands and trying to continuation bet my way out of it. I was involved in no pots where I lost more than 500 chips. Then this hand came up. I was in the SB at 50/100 levels with around 2800 maybe 2850. I had AQ. UTG limped, 2 more from UTG limped, another limp, then the button makes it 450. I look down at AQ and see a lot of dead money in the pot and a lot of people that were playing loosely limping, so I just pushed because I had a pretty tight image. The second limper had QQ and the initial raiser had AK gg. I still don't understand why the second limper would not raise with QQ. If he does, AK reraises and I easily fold, but that's part of the luck involved. I'm not crazy about my play, but with blinds going up to 100/200, I was trying to pick up some easy chips. Not so easy.

Yesterday online, I felt pretty good, but only ended up with a 19th place finish in the 100 freezeout on Stars. 6 handed with 3 tables left, I had AA utg with 45k in chips. I limp under the gun for 4k. Next guy pushes and has me covered. Another shortstack is all in, so if I beat the first pusher I at least make a few chips. 88 KK and the board runs out 10 9 8 J K GG.


I also grinded my way up to a step 6 for the WSOP today and played AK super weak and I allowed AQ to push me around preflop and then after the AQ9 flop I played extremely soft and lost a lot of my chips check calling the whole way. I probably should have been better in this hand. Then I eventually got back up after an AK vs 6s7s. I won a race with AJ vs 88. Then I raised to 450 from the SB with 75/150 blinds and I got pushed by the BB who had J10. Oh great and he hit a 10. Then I built it back up again only to be knocked out in the bubble 7th (where you get absolutely nothing) 6th at least gets 500. A10 vs A9. I hate poker.


Then I played tonight.

Full Tilt Poker Game #5898052092: Table Cranwood (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:10:07 ET - 2008/04/03
Seat 1: JoRDANe ($480.60)
Seat 2: FastEddie267 ($400)
Seat 3: JIMMY BLUFF1TT ($410)
Seat 4: kice32 ($451.60)
Seat 5: thelilbearbeeny ($583.20)
Seat 6: PlzFoldxX ($400)
JIMMY BLUFF1TT posts the small blind of $2
kice32 posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kice32 [As Ah]
thelilbearbeeny raises to $14
PlzFoldxX folds
JoRDANe raises to $44
FastEddie267 folds
JIMMY BLUFF1TT folds
kice32 has 15 seconds left to act
kice32 raises to $148
thelilbearbeeny folds
JoRDANe has 15 seconds left to act
JoRDANe has requested TIME
JoRDANe raises to $480.60, and is all in
kice32 calls $303.60, and is all in
JoRDANe shows [Kh Ks]
kice32 shows [As Ah]
Uncalled bet of $29 returned to JoRDANe
*** FLOP *** [7c 3d Kd]
*** TURN *** [7c 3d Kd] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [7c 3d Kd Js] [6s]
JoRDANe shows three of a kind, Kings
kice32 shows a pair of Aces
JoRDANe wins the pot ($916.20) with three of a kind, Kings
kice32 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $919.20 | Rake $3
Board: [7c 3d Kd Js 6s]
Seat 1: JoRDANe showed [Kh Ks] and won ($916.20) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: FastEddie267 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: JIMMY BLUFF1TT (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: kice32 (big blind) showed [As Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: thelilbearbeeny folded before the Flop
Seat 6: PlzFoldxX didn't bet (folded)


That will sum up the night.

Question from David123

While playing PLO – I often jam the money in on the flop with +ev but without having made a single hand since my 4 cards are often connectors/suits that leave me with lots of outs but cant beat a pair at the time the money goes in. I know that getting the money in while ahead – 60/40 – will prove to be successful in the long run. However, would it be wise to check-call when I’m merely drawing half flush/straights so I leave myself some fold equity when I don’t hit, or should I just jam the money and sit back?

I think you have to jam because people can get away from hands in PLO like sets when that straight comes up or flush finally hits. If it's positive EV, you should probably be doing it. Not to mention the amount of times when that guy has such a weaker hand (a 2 pair type hand).

Also, when opening early with 4 connecting cards then getting reraised pre by someone who is polarizing his hand to AAxx, is betting pot on a low flop going to scare the villain with the overpair away and fold his high pair frequently enough to be +ev. What about check-raising when he bets pot with his overpair? Or check/calling then betting pot if the turn brings another low card- a possible straight?

This question is loaded to me with the essence of PLO. It all depends on the player. If you know the guy isn't getting away from AAxx on any board, then calling with almost anything to me preflop is the way to go. So many times, it's not an easy call in PLO unless you know the guy, so what I try to do is err on the side of caution until you have an idea of how the player plays. Then attack with all the moves in your book that you think will work.


Lastly, how should AAxx best be played post flop when all you have is your overpair? (OOP, and in position). How does it affect you when there are 2 guys post flop?

Two parts to my answer here. If it's a scary board, just shut down. More often than not, it's really just costly to get involved in a big pot. Remember also that you don't have to always bet the pot. Controlling the pot is probably the biggest lesson that no one seems to learn in this game. Size your bets throughout your session as standard 1/2 pot, 3/4 pot, 1/3 the pot to mix it up. I say this because sometimes people think if you don't bet the pot you don't have it. So make those bets when you have something strong. This will disguise your fear when you have AAxx and will cost you less than having to bet the pot and fold when someone plays back at you with an obvious set, better draw, etc.

In general with AAxx, my theory is that I would rather be the one capitalizing on the AAxx mistakes of my opponents than the one with AAxx making those same mistakes. AA is good in hold em and really when you look at it against most hands, it's about as good as an AK vs 89 in hold em.

2 comments:

brodaar said...

Don't know if you or any other reader noticed the PlayerID of the FullTilt player in Seat 3...

That's up there with BillIvey and KINGjackOFF

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